Wednesday, February 10, 2016

How Tall Were the Giants in the Bible?


(Photo from The Seattle Times story found HERE)

It is interesting how from time to time certain subjects pop up with unusual frequency. Over the past couple weeks I have talked to multiple people who were curious about the height of the giants in the Bible.

There is a great deal of information circulating on the internet about these giants along with various theories connecting them to demons, aliens, and various types of governmental and/or scientific conspiracies. I am not going to take the time to deal with all of that, but given all the misinformation I did think it might be helpful to answer the basic question about their height.

Internet references vary widely in their claims but many of them are in the 20 to 30 foot range, and several have heights up to 450 feet tall! Since the Bible is often used to provide support for the idea that these giants existed, I would like to look at what the Bible actually says about the height of the ancient giants.

The Bible does record that giants existed in the ancient world and mentions them in several places. Most of these references do not provide exact height dimensions but describe people of great size and power. A typical example is the report of the spies who were sent to scout the land in Numbers 13 who said,

“…all the people that we saw in it are of great height. And there we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak, who come from the Nephilim), and we seemed to ourselves like grasshoppers, and so we seemed to them.”  (Numbers 13:32-33 ESV)

or the record in Amos chapter 2 where the Lord says…

“Yet it was I who destroyed the Amorite before them, whose height was like the height of the cedars and who was as strong as the oaks..." (Amos 2:9 ESV)

While clearly references to very large and powerful people, it is not necessary for us to assume that these are literal proportions. It is far more likely that this is figurative language. The point is that they were very large and not that they were actually as tall as trees or could squash normal men under their feet. We can be confident that this is figurative language because there are a few places in the Bible where we are given size dimensions for those who are called giants. Although still remarkably large, they are nowhere as large as some of the internet sources claim.

For example, in 1 Chronicles 11:23 we learn that one of David’s mighty men struck down an Egyptian who was a "man of great stature" who was 7 foot 6 inches tall. The Bible does not refer to this man specifically as a giant, however, he is given special attention as a result of his uncommon height. If there were 450 foot tall men around, I am not sure 7’6” would have been that impressive.

Of course, the most famous giant is Goliath of Gath (2 Samuel 15:21-22). In 1 Samuel 17:4-7 we are told exactly how tall he is. Most translations follow the Hebrew Masoretic text for this verse which reads, "And there came out from the camp of the Philistines a champion named Goliath of Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span." That is 9 feet, 9 inches tall.

Interestingly, even this height is challenged because there are variant readings of this verse. Many of the oldest versions say Goliath was 4 cubits and a span (6’9”), which is why some English versions, such as the NET, record his height as "close to 7 feet tall".[1] Some argue that the size and weight of Goliath’s armor indicate the 9’ number is more likely. In any case, Goliath is between 7 and 10 feet tall. This is a big man, but nowhere near 20 or 30, let alone 450 feet!

Perhaps even more remarkable than Goliath, however, is the giant named Og who was king of Bashan and likely the tallest man mentioned in the Bible. The Book of Deuteronomy records the following:

"For only Og the king of Bashan was left of the remnant of the Rephaim. Behold, his bed was a bed of iron. Is it not in Rabbah of the Ammonites? Nine cubits was its length, and four cubits its breadth, according to the common cubit." (Deuteronomy 3:11 ESV)

The Rephaim were considered giants and although the Bible does not give us Og’s specific height, his bed is 13 feet 6 inches long and 6 feet wide. If we assume that the king had a bed that fit him comfortably, it seems reasonable that he was likely between 10 and 12 feet tall.

Again, this is extreme size but nothing close to 20, 30, or 450 feet. Based on the various references given in the Bible it appears the giants of the ancient world were generally between 7 ½ and 10 feet tall. Nowhere in the Bible are there any people who are said to be anywhere close to 20 feet tall.

Where do people get these extreme figures? The exaggerated figures result partially from a blending of biblical texts with ancient mythological texts. Most ancient cultures had stories about giants. Pagan mythological references, as well as non-biblical Jewish literature such as the Book of Enoch and the Book of Jasher are frequently referenced.[2]

In an effort to boost the credibility of these books it is sometimes pointed out that although they are not biblical books, the Books of Jasher and Enoch are referenced in the Bible. We need to keep a couple things in mind regarding this. First, the Books of Jasher we now have (there are as many as 5) are not the same Book of Jasher the Bible references (Josh. 10:13, 2 Sam. 1:18). They are much later texts that have been given the ancient name. Second, simply because the Bible references a book does not mean that everything in that book or by that writer is true, good, or even helpful.

We do have copies of the Book of Enoch referenced in the Bible (Jude 1:14). Enoch is a Jewish religious book written during the time between the Old and New Testaments but although well known to both Jews and Christians it is not part of either the Jewish or Christian Scriptures. Intertestamental books like Enoch are important and helpful because they provide insight into the language and culture at the time the New Testament was written, but they are not inspired and therefore not reliable as foundations for doctrine and teaching. In fact, much of what they contain fall into the category of myths and fables that we are warned to avoid (1 Tim. 4:7).

In any case, the 7th chapter of the Book of Enoch specifically references the height of the giants. The translation I have says, “And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against them and devoured mankind.”[3]  An ancient ell is roughly a cubit or 18 inches. Therefore, the text actually says that these giants were 4,500 feet tall. Many supporters of the extreme figures argue this is a textual error and the verse should read 300 ells, or 450 feet.

Just to put this in perspective, the Statue of Liberty is 151 feet tall. Even if you include the base, she is only 305 feet tall. To give you an idea of the size we are talking about, if the faces on Mount Rushmore had bodies, they would be 465 feet tall.

Compared with these numbers, the 20 and 30 foot references coming from ancient mythological literature do not seem quite as incredible. The bottom line, however, is that none of these extreme figures, including 20 and 30 feet, come from the Bible. The giants whose heights are recorded in the Bible are between 7 and 10 feet tall and one had a bed that was a little over 13 feet long.




[1] Examples listing Goliath as around 7 feet include the Septuagint and the Dead Sea Scrolls text of Samuel. The ancient Jewish writer Josephus also follows this reading.

[2] Often there are also various problematic archaeological and journalistic references as well.

[3] R. H. Charles and W. O. E. Oesterley, The Book of Enoch (London: Society for Promoting Christian Knowledge, 1917), Enoch 7:2–4.

97 comments:

  1. The average person in King David's time was around 5' 7". King Saul is said to be a head taller than others of the kingdom. I would guess a head would add maybe 10" making Saul around 6' 5". If Goliath was 4 cubits and a span or 6' 9" as some say, he was only 4" taller than King Saul. I do not think that difference would make the Bible consider Goliath a giant and the 7'6" guy simply as a man of great height and not as a giant.

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    1. The fact that God allowed it to rain for 40 days and 40 nights leads me to believe their were giants in a more literal sense. It would not take that big of a flood to drown a 7-10 foot human. The waters rose up high enough to cover the mountains so as far as I am concerned it was necessary to kill off some incredibly tall humans. The Bible curses anyone who adds to or takes away from the word of God which means this has more than likely occurred. Who gets to decide that the book of Enoch is not inspired? Fills in a huge gap in the KJV. This is why we need the Holy Spirit not man teaching is.

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    2. How do u know , no one knows 4 sure..do don tell me a book told u...bel beli half of what u zee.. believe none u read ..it's not a sure thing until it's in your hand...always cover your ass.

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    3. ummm... a book did tell me... the Bible. The whole point of this post was not to share any opinion of mine but to look at whatever specific measurements were given in the Bible itself. Those measurements are in the range of 10 foot rather hundreds of feet.

      As far as who gets to decide if Enoch is inspired there was a long process through which the people of God recognized which books were inspired. Enoch, while accepted by some, did not make the cut in terms of evidence for canonization. To explore why would take us far afield from this topic. The goal of this article is simply to ask based upon the undisputed books, are there measurements for the giants. There are and they are massive... but not hundreds of feet.

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    4. Yeah that doesn't make sense. They were actually Giants and I think Cthulhu is one of them

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    5. You can go to youtube and find from 1/2 to a dozen different videos of the preflood titan fossils from all around the planet. Some people like to claim a lot of them are fake but i dont see how they could be. Especially considering there are giant dolphin, turtle, and many more giant creatures that are still around today only they are a lot shorter. This article doesnt discredit the book of enoch but they might as well. I have to say for myself and my thoughts and theories the book of enoch claiming the titans were the offspring of fallen angels breeding with human woman and them messing with animals and plants explains dinosaurs, wooly mammoths, and saber tooth tigers a lot better then Darwin and the so called scientist with their evolution and different ages like an ice age! They cant come up with one piece of evidence thats proves the earth froze over without a shed of doubt, on top of that a lot of scientists along with a bunch of atheist try to claim there never was a great flood but yet there has been many pieces of proof found over the decades,centuries,and millennium like sea shells on top of the Himalayas whale skeletons found in deserts plus no matter where you decide to dig on this planet if you go deep enough you will find some kind of aquatic remains. Yall can try to come up with whatever theory or mathmatical solution you want to determine the biblical giants heighth but let me give you the lowdown of the facts where there is all kinds of written documentation from at least the early 1800's if not further where people have found giant skeletons and remains all over the planet including here in the us that measures in the 7ft range to the 30ft range, and some of them even had 6 fingers and toes plus two rows of teeth just like it mentions in the bible. Our leaders and teachers really like to sound smart and convince us that they ate figuring stuff out but for real they dont know squat about squat this whole place is still a huge mystery. Think about it do you really believe an astronomer knows the first thing about space or the distance from one big light out there from the other big light that they saw in their super powered binoculars? Theres no such thing as light years people, a few over educated people locked their self in a dark room with flash lights and tape measures and thats what they come up with, not a one of them took off on a rocket with the dumb end of the tape! Just like one scientist says the dinsaurs whete here millions of years ago but the scientist standing next to him disagrees because his conclusions tell him it was hundreds of thousands years ago! Smh lmao i didnt even have to go to some fancy overpriced institution of learning to figure that out its called common sense!!

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    6. Enoch and other books were removed from canonical teachings by the church in the 1st/4th century. There are two remaining which happen to be the oldest churches in the world that never removed Enoch from their Bibles. 7-10ft also double that. How do we know? They have been dug up.

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    7. Yes it's a fact. Extra rows of teeth . Giants existed of varying sizes .

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    8. These creatures have been unearthed on every continent on the globe..The native Americans was not saying hello when they raised their hand and said How! They were looking for the six finger men that they feared.. In the 1800s there is possibly hundreds of newspaper articles of these finds in the states..The bible said before the flood there was giants in the earth.. And also after that. The Smithsonian does not display these although they have had them and deny they exist..I have read accounts of them destroying these bones. Although they don't destroy giant animal bones. These Nephlems and there wife's were taught uncommon knowledge By the Nephlems Father's. It seems that God was destroying the gene pool from these offspring with the flood. When God said Noah was perfect in all his generation's he was referring to his DNA. Not just that he was a righteous man.
      They are still here today.The UFO phenomenon is connected to these creatures..
      When Bob Lazar was asked where these crafts in our governments possession came from.. He said he was told it was a archeological dig . He said it was most likely ancient.
      We live in a supernatural world that we know has Three heavens and possibly trillions of others considering God is almighty and had no beginning or ending.. So for all you know it all's...God said be quiet and know that I am GOD!

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    9. Extra row of teeth and 6 fingers on both hands and 6 toes on each foot. I'm more agnostic with my beliefs and I honestly think that giants existed. I've read somewhere that there were giants as tall as a mile. If that is true it would make scence that God would want to destroy them and start over again.

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  2. The bible is literal angels are tall enough to stand on the four corners of the earth. I guess unimaginable heights would strike disbelief and denial and even fear in the hearts of men who use their own judgement instead of the Wisdom of God the Creator. Aliens are demons and fallen angels, and they tremble at the name Jesus.

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    1. The article is not talking about Angels.

      Also, we might point out the following:

      1) Several of the angels in scripture apparently had normal stature as they were mistaken for men.

      2) Figurative language is often employed in the Bible and that does not make it any less literal.

      3) Unless you think the earth is a cube then "4 corners" seems to be figurative in which case perhaps that is a clue as to the nature of the passage, including the physical size of the angel in question.

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    2. No they tremble at the name of YahuSha laugh at the name Jesus. Jesus in Latin is earth pig; Greek Iesous; Hebrew hay horse. Since he is neither Greek nor Latin lets stick to YahuSha mean Yahuah is salvation thats hat name they tremble at. www.fossilizedcustoms.com

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    3. Jimmy where did you get your translations? Also Latin was only used by the RCC.Im sincerely asking where you found the translation from ancient Hebrew to mean hay horse. Im only familiar with Yashua to mean Joshua. Anyway let me know. I'm gonna check out your link now.

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    4. This article IS talking about angels, except you don't know it, LOL. The Nephilim were the offspring of (fallen) angels called the Watchers and human women. The angels in scripture having normal stature isn't because they were the same size as humans, but because they were able to make themselves appear human when they wanted to. The Bible gives descriptions of the different types of angels, and NONE of them look human in their natural form. You're thinking about the artistic depictions of angels of being beautiful men or chubby babies with a set of wings. That is NOT the Bible's description of angels.

      Furthermore, the book of Enoch is correct when it gives the Nephilim's height of 3,000 ells. The Bible is not speaking figuratively when it says that the Nephilim were as to or like cedars. The Bible says they "were the mighty men of old, the men of renown". The Greeks had a name for them too: the titans. The Bible says that God declared that as the fallen angel's punishment for leaving their "first estate", as Joel puts it, their offspring - whom they loved - would kill each other off in a civil war and their fathers would have to watch their children kill each other.

      The "giants" in Canaan were not the first generation of Nephilim. They were the descendants of the first ones, so even if they were not as tall/big/strong as their ancestors, they were still were a sight to behold. People wonder about how the Nephilim still existed after the flood, but there are some other books from other ancient civilizations that talk about some of the Nephilim (I'm thinking their offspring because all the first Nephilim annihilated each other) building an ark and surviving the flood. Some people even theorize that the ark that Ron Wyatt (thinks he) found was actually the Nephilim ark and not Noah's ark. And, in case you're wondering why the descendants of the first Nephilim were still called Nephilim even though it seems that they were much smaller, it's because the Bible determines ethnicity and lineage through the father - if their fathers were Nephilim, the children are considered Nephilim.

      Lastly, the "four corners" of the earth is a reference to the four cardinal directions: north, south, east, and west and not to anyone thinking the earth is a cube.

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    5. I forgot to ask the question what happened to the bodies of the Nephilim who died in Noah's flood? Is it possible that their bodies turned to stone after being submerged in mud underwater? That's what happened to a lot of the dinosaurs who died then (yes, dinosaurs lived at the same time as humans -- read the book of Job). Let's just suppose that the second generation of Nephilim were as large, or nearly as large, as the first generation. A being nearly a mile tall, and proportionately wide, laying down covered in mud could turn into mountain with trees and/or plants growing out of it. All it would take is the animals released from the ark to poop out the seeds of the plants they ate onto the mud and trample them in as they passed through to the lands God prepared for them. There are a lot of mountains, hills, and rock/stone structures that look like very large, unnatural things that were killed during the flood. Some people call them "mud fossils". With a true understanding of the Bible, it's not hard to see this happening. I'm not saying for sure that these mud fossils are real. But, when you put all the evidence together it's a compelling theory.

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  3. I disagree that the description of the size of these giants was wholly figurative language, because of the words 'nephilim,' and 'giants.' These words provide destictive separation between large people and nephilim - I believe this is deliberate. If the writers were talking about a large person, why wouldnt they just say a very large person? Instead they deliberately say 'giants' 'nephilim' and 'decendandts of anak' or 'descendants of nephilim' the writers are trying to make the distinction that these are a separate race and abnormal beings.

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    1. Typing with my phone = typos

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    2. Thanks Anonymous,

      Just to clarify, I did not argue that the language was "wholly figurative". I do think that 9 or 10 feet is legitimately giant and not figurative.

      The designation nephilim, sons of Anak, etc. may very well be similar to similar designations used for other branches of the families of the earth. I am aware of the long tradition of understanding these as a separate race. I think most recently Dr. Heiser has argued strongly for this position. That could very well be the case as well.

      I did not take a position on that either way. In either case, it is clear that these giants are not 40 feet tall, much less 400 feet tall. Whatever their anthropology, the biblical evidence leads us to the conclusion that they were somewhere in the neighborhood of 9-10 feet at the most.

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    3. My friend and I have studied the Book of Enoch much here lately and both of us are fairly well versed in the Holy Bible. To begin with, the Book of Enoch was ACTUALLY IN the Biblical canon until @ Constantine. That being said, the Anon person is correct that there are two completely distinctive words used for the giant that is Goliath and then the Nephilim. Whether you chose to read and accept Enoch or not, the passage in Amos as well as the OP quote of the spies in Canaan both CLEARLY state that the giants were huge. I am 6' 0" and even if I saw a person 12' tall I would not think myself a "grasshopper" to him. How, if I saw someone 100' or more...oh yeah, I'm a grasshopper. And regarding angels...I think we as humans have to small of minds...exactly how BIG is heaven? How big is God? I have no hard time at all thinking that angels "normal sizes" are thousands of feet tall. Just because they manifest themselves on our level absolutely does not mean that their normal size isn't colossal. To say that they are all our size goes right along with the typical human conceitedness. God created the universe. I have no problem thinking He or His angels are of incredible size!

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    4. I totally disagree with the KG person and there interpretation of giants and nephilim. However Giants and nephilim on my mind are the same beings. But it's my belief that the incredibly huge nephilim that we are the size of grasshoppers describes, are the true nephilim or hybrid humans from angels and human women mating comes from, are the true nephilim and from time then on they started coming down in size thought time till the most common Giants would be 30- downward. Till today's 7 to 8 feet tall Giants. But now I don't believe in that disease word gigantism. Being a gene deformity. I think Giants are still among us. Just not as impressive as they used to be. I'm a NOW firm believer in the flood being of so greatness that it wiped out the double triple tree sized Giants out. Never actually thought bout that one till I read it earlier up. Makes perfect sense. Always believed in the flood. But never actually thought bout the height of it being tall enough to wipe out a 450 foot dude. But makes sense. I absolutely hate that scientists think that the dinos died out 65 million years ago when the earth is only at best 8 thousand years old. Alot of the biggest stone monuments in the world can now be figured out how they were made. Made by nephilim. 450 foot tall head in the clouds Giants. The pyramids, the stone henge, etc. All created by Giants. I hate that they are digging them up and hiding them away and telling people they didn't exist. Cause they did exist. And we didn't come from no monkey. That's my rants. Kudos to the guys and girls disagreeing with KG post. Thank y'all if u read my reply and agree with me.

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    5. Why would these enormous giants build stone henge out of what would be tiny pebbles to them? And the pyramids or the structures on Malta attributed to gigantes, yet make the doorways and corridors so small that even their pinky couldn't fit through?Laughable!

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    6. Of-course we didn't "come from no monkey" ! Those creatures diverged from the Apes long before our ancestors did ! 😂🦧🙊

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  4. Tom, thanks for interacting.

    To be consistent we should acknowledge that the book of Enoch actually says that these giants were 4,500 feet tall. The 450 is built on an assumption of textual corruption. Perhaps more copies have been recently found but no version I know of actually says they were hundreds of feet... but thousands.

    Second, and more importantly every reference in the Bible to actual sizes is 14 feet or less. We can discuss the relative size of grasshoppers as an argument but in every case where an actual size is given it is nowhere near hundreds of feet.

    Finally, it is not true that Enoch was ever undisputed (homologoumena). It was never part of the Jewish canon and although some early Christians accepted it, others did not. In the end, it failed to meet the criteria of acceptance to be recognized as canonical.

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    1. I think it in the book of enoch it says that the sons of angels are 30 cubits which is around 45 feet

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    2. Thanks unknown. The current texts say 30 cubits. This is because they are working from a critical text that fixes what they assume to be a scribal error. I explained this in the OP.

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    3. It says 3,000 El. Whatever an El is.
      Usually it meant from your bent elbow to finger tips.

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    4. KG you read like a proponent of the satanic cogs that run this world which messiah is expressly coming to destroy. It is beyond frustrating to me and to him to see people like you trying to limit and block the truth. Do you even know or care who "decided" what is "canonical" because if not you are an enemy of God Almighty himself. You are for Satan. Come out of her my people. Here you are stopping people from doing just that. A true enemy of God.

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    5. A Ell is 18in same as a cubic now I know the Bible I know the book of Enoch There’s a lot missing from the holy Bible and it’s still my go to book for answers but the book of Enoch Explains everything that doesn’t make sense in the Bible Jesus actually quotes the book of Enoch and so does his disciples so does James Jude mark luke And so on Enoch son is the oldest person mentioned in the Bible Enoch’s father was Jared Enoch was also noah great grandfather Now the book of Enoch when it first starts it says that it is written so when the end days come gods people will know the truth Other words the truth whole truth and nothing but the truth So help you God yes our government has lied to us for many years the Giants are real they were many different sizes I grew up in Ohio valley area Whitewater Valley there is evidence of giants everywhere look up the sleeping woman mountain range and that would be the 4500 ell/cubics there both 18in the Giants that the Bible and Enoch talks about not 45ft or 450 ft but 4500 That’s taller than a 50 story skyscraper And people can’t believe that there’s unicorns in the Bible to all things are possible through God I believe the Giants are real I believe generation after generation they got smaller and smaller the last known ones were anywhere from 12 to 18 to 22 feet tall that were killed off around 2000/1000 years ago Many Native American tribes talk about a race of redheaded giants that supposedly were killed off a few hundred years ago And know this I am 6’11 & 490 pounds I am a red head A giant To almost all I meet my father is 7’1 560pds now look up Giants of the Ohio Valley and read what the Smithsonian has been hiding from us for hundreds of years just saying people come on it’s all real giants are real Enoch tells the truth And the truth shall set you free thank you Jesus

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  5. The book of Enoch was in Jewish literature and recent studies have concluded that it's literature was present inside the temple during Christ ministries. The book of Enoch was also present in the collection of the dead sea scrolls. So if the book of Enoch was quoted in the new testament, and referenced an estimated 130 plus times in the new testament directly or indirectly (more than any other old testament book combined), then why isn't it in our modern day bibles, and who eliminated it?

    It's easy to find out. We know that the book of Enoch through historical research was first eliminated from Jewish reading in the year 80 A.D. by none other than the sanhedrin. The very group responsible for fast tracking the CRUXIFICTION of Jesus christ. Their motivation for eliminating the book of Enoch was simple. The book was the most descriptive book of old testament time that prophesied of the coming of the messiah. The sanhedrin did not accept Jesus as messiah, therefore they eliminated the book that had the most proof of his coming into the world.

    Christianity maintained the book of Enoch in its readings until the establishment of the Catholic church, where it was eventually eliminated for A couple suspected reasons. #1 it debunks the possibility of a modern day pagan calendar, with a Sunday sabbath, both crucial staples of the Catholic faith. And also, the book of Enoch confirms that tithing was strictly commanded by crop payment from farmers to the Levite priest who were not allowed to have paying jobs. God never commanded money as form of tithing, which is a necessity to keep the Catholic religion alive, through collection of money from their members. Yet Enoch makes it clear, tithing is only commanded to go to Levite priest. Catholics needed to surpass this law because they were not Levite. By eliminating the book of Enoch, their man made religion, with man made laws were able to successfully manipulate it's congregation to pay monetary tithing to non Levite priest.

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    1. That is very interesting are you a firm believer that Enoch belongs in the bible

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  6. I can't believe so many Christians still think the book of Enoch can't be trusted, not only that but the bible supports the book of Enoch as true and trust worthy. Note to all you so called Christians the bible and the book of Enoch 100% prove that the earth is not a globe and is flat, the book of Enoch explains how God created the earth the heavens and what happened to the fallen angels, it also explains what happened to the first generation giants you know the 450 foot tall ones, also look into mud fossils the bodies of the giants are literally right in your faces yet you do not see. If you need more information go to my YouTube channel R truth and go through my playlist called truth.

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    1. The book of Enoch records 3000 Ells. If you do the math somewhere 45 feet tall . They found hieroglyphics in caves , with giant man running with the Buffalo under one arm and a lion under the other . Do you think this could explain the pyramids as well ? Just because the book of Enoch has not been added to the 66 books of the Bible ,does not mean it is not viable ,I think it is very viable. I also believe the skeletons were found and hidden by the Smithsonian and whoever is involved namely governments all over the world to try to keep the Bible from coming alive and from being the truth , all orchestrated by the mind of Satan . To keep us from the truth ,nevertheless we will know when we die .

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    2. What is your youtube channel name please? Thanks

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    3. I'm with you on that Bro.!
      I cannot seem to get a exact on converting a Ell to feet and inches.. Where do we find that?
      These were some big creatures.Every one keep oil in your lamps.. Don't miss the most important wedding.

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  8. So... Nice discussion.

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  9. If the earth is flat why does it look like a globe from outer space? Why are the other planets spherical? If the book of Enoch was part of the dead sea scrolls that's good enough for me.

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    1. I’m new to FE but every photo of the globe you have ever seen is CGI & all come from NASA which collects 50 million tax dollars per day. All actual photos which show a curve are taken using a fish eye lense. Look up the Facebook group “the earth is flat”

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  10. They are and were actually 4500-5000 ft tall. So mote it be. #Rise

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  11. A modern bricklayer can set stone blocks alone to a weight of perhaps 200-250 pounds.
    As the megaliths have stones to the 1,000 ton size it seems logical that the builder was in scale.
    Deteronomy's mentions of giants "For only Og the king of Bashan was left of the remnant of the Rephaim' obviously means that Og was one of the descendants of the Nephilim but the gigantism strain of DNA had been diluted. These days we know that DNA can still throw up a throwback with strange characteristics.
    If you care to find a means of lifting and carefully placing such giant stones without leaving any trace of lewis or dog holes your contention taht Biblical giants were only a bit taller than modern humans is plain silly.
    Incidentally the stones of Solomon's temple does have numerous holes that may have been for a lost means of lifting by masses of men.
    The two collosi and their transport is obviously beyond human possibilities.
    But Nephilim up to 450 feet would be able to combine efforts to quarry and move the statues.
    When GOD said He was going to destroy man off the face pf the Earth He really meant it. But the size of the megaliths withstood the floods.
    Satan will stop at nothing to have the Bible trashedby willing slaves such as you who deny Nephilim and demons!

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    1. Not all men are believers.Satan has blinded there minds.They know if all this is true the rest is true.All this is a small thing for a eternal almighty God. May GOD open there heart and mind before it's too late.

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  12. We can know Earth is asphere hanging on nothing because GOD made it as a ball of water and minerals and any person with good eyesight can drip water and see it being formed into a ball by 'gravity'.
    The real reason Enoch was kept out of the collection that became known as the Bible is simply that it fully detailed the origin of Satan and his gang of demons who pull the strings of the Catholic popes and it will be a Catholic 'Scarlet Woman' who fights Jesus on his return.
    I'm not entirely convinced the stones put forward as giant bones by Mudfossil are real but they could well be.
    The fact there are only a few really colossal ruins among the mass of those made with smaller stones would seem to indicate that only a percentage of the Nephilim/Rephaim grew to the enormous size mentiond in Enoch and capable of cutting, transporting and asembling colossal stones.
    Every breeder of animals knows that some offspring will not be similar to parents due to a stray bit of DNA being activated.

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    1. I think it was kept out by Devine intervention. It seems very popular now because it's more relevant now. End times.
      God is in control.

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  13. Rose,

    Thank you for interacting. My purpose in this post was to provide an overview of what can be determined from biblical exegesis. Much of this discussion depends upon several assumptions that have no evidence in the Bible itself. While it is true that the book of Enoch was included in some early collections it was never accepted as part of either the Jewish or Christian canon. Even if it were, the references contained in it would be insufficient to justify the fully formed giant theology of which some who have commented appear to be convinced.

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    1. Look they weren't just big okay ....records have said many have 6 fingers 6 toes. Extra digits means something genetic is going on here.. auburn red hair and double rows of teeth.

      You can be sure if these beings exist the government wouldn't want to disclose this information to anyone.

      There are old newspaper articles of people finding giant remains. Then the Smithsonian institution goes in a and confiscates the remains. As if they own anything in this world! This entire worlds doctrines are lies and I'd rather think for myself.. I'd rathers say anything is possible.

      I don't believe round up earth and dinosaurs. I believe flat earth and giants.

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  14. Here is brand new scientific evidence that the measurements are literal, not figurative, as well as astonishing.

    https://michaeltellinger.com/news/giant-bone-knuckle-of-1-mile-high-giant/

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    1. Thanks unknown... unfortunately, I do not see much that is scientific much less exegetical here.

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    2. Stfu KG you indoctrinated initiate into satanic church system which TMH hates you're a fool repent

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    3. Where are you guys getting all this about the earth is flat..I'm a pilot and believe my eyes and maps or I would be dead.
      The earth seems flat when you are standing on it but it is a sphere. Coriolis effect, gravity, horizon, photos, Space travel all confirm this to be a fact.

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  15. So many fail to see the obvious. According to the God inspired Genesis account the deluge was brought about to destroy the nephilim(giants). Only Noah and his family survived. How could King Og or Goliath be a decent of the pre flood hybrid human/angel giants? They cant be. They were just extremely tall men noted for their size but not Giants. Pre flood nephilim being 20 - 40 feet tall seem reasonable but 450 to 4500 feet is absurd. Think about how heavy a person of that size would be. The earth would have foot prints and extremely noticeable geographic changes from their existence. This is why Enoch and other apocryphal books were never accepted as inspired- they contain too many human exaggerations. The Bible's accuracy on the hand, has been divinely preserved.

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    1. I too thought 450 to 4500 feet tall was absurd, but reading Azazel's sons Hiya and Hiwa ate 1000 camels a day, 1000 horses a day. Assumming a camel/horse is a chicken nugget to a 45 foot giant I thought the math isn't right here, Hiya and Hiwa had to be of monster size, Azazel translated Hiwa's dream of a great flood, Azazel's reaction was he wasn't worried about the height of the flood waters because of the size of his sons, he grieved because they would starve to death. Food for thought.

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    2. There are a great many stories such as those of Hiya and Hiwa which talk of all sorts of things. The Bible, however, never mentions them. That point that so many readers seem to miss is that my goal here is to determine the size of the giants given in the BIBLE. Stories and myths in books not accepted into the canon are irrelevant to the analysis in this article. The Bible and that alone is the standard by which I sought to answer the question.

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    3. lmao, divinely inspired book filled with countless contradictions lol

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  16. Notice how men in the Bible exaggerate when they are trying to convince others. In Numbers 13:31 the ten evil spies sent into the promised land are trying to talk the children of Israel out of going into their inheritance. First they say "they are stronger than we," Then in verse 32 "all the people we saw in it are men of great stature," in vs.33 they become giants and even come from giants. Finally they are so huge we were in our own sight as grasshoppers! Do you see the progression from large people to astronomical? This is similar to how a high school football team may talk about a superior rival team. They would say those guys are huge! We're like ants to them!


    Now look at what righteous Joshua and Caleb did and said to convince the people to go into the land. In Numbers 14:6-9 they rent their clothes and spoke of the good things of the land and how the Lord would deliver the land into their hand. They said those inhabitants of the land are "as bread for us." So Joshua and Caleb exaggerated also by comparing the inhabitants to "bread".

    Finally, see what God has to say about the ten evil spies who swayed the Israelites from going into their inherited land. In Numbers 14:35-37, God said they brought up slander upon the land. Slander is falsehood, or defaming statements to convince others something is bad. They only said bad things about the inhabitants of the land, and the only thing they mentioned was their size. They never said the land was bad or the food or water was bad, just the people's size. This was slanderous and false according to God especially when they said we were as grasshoppers to them. The people who believed them weren't allowed to inherit the land, and the evil spies died by the plague before the LORD.

    It's funny that many readers chose to believe what the evil spies reported just like the children of Israel did back then about the size of the giants. Sure they may have been big men, but according to God, when it gets out of hand it's slanderous and comes with consequences.

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  17. You're a damn fool whoever wrote this blog. Using words like inspired etc. You're one of the indoctrinated clones of Satan's church system. Disgusted

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    1. Not good words. Using such language and showing such attitude indicates not a follower of Jesus.

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  18. The bible
    Canon
    Blah blah blah blah. You don't even realize how corrupted the biblical books are and Paul is a false apostke, messiah taught vegetarianism, the Torah animal sacrifices were not instituted by God OR MOSES but by rebellious aaron, and God hates such things. You talked about conspiracies as if you're actually awoke but you're not. Grow up and go study O.K.

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  19. If you refuse to consider and also study what I've shared with you than all my accusations against you stand, for then it will no longer be of ignorance. If however you repent and study, my words will become soft. Just like God.

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  20. The main point, I believe, the commentator is trying to make is this: that the book of Enoch is false, by using the verse 3 in chapter 7, in his trying to explain the actual size of giants. Could it be that this number, 3000 Ells, was falsely grafted into Enoch to discredit it? Enoch Chapter 1 verse 9 is used to support Jude verses 14 and 15. Jesus Christ would never use a pagan work to support His word. Yes? or No?

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    1. Actually there are several references in the Bible to pagan works. I will post something on this as it probably deserves its own development.

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  21. The bible is the word of God, Enoch walked with God, did not die, for God took him, so in you narrow mind you want to discredit the written word, 3000 ells is 450 tall, if God had not sent the flood there would have been no flesh saved, 10 foot people would have not caused a no flesh situation...let the word of God be true and every man a lier...enoch was God's man, i believe he wrote exactly what was going on at the time...all the giant stone structures would have been like ABC blocks to these enormous creatures..remember, they were half Angel and human, the few giants that have been found have been hid from the public...

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    1. Thanks for replying Popsrush. One thing that I think it is important to keep in mind is that the book of Enoch we have today was not written by the Enoch you refer to. The best evidence (using the same methods we use to confirm the early dating of the Gospels) shows that the oldest portions of 1 Enoch were written around 250BC. Long after Enoch was taken up to heaven. The book uses his name and may contain a tradition of some of his sayings but does not date from his time.

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  22. I think it is more in the literal sense. like 40 feet and more. Then only one could explain the giant ancient ruins that we find- a 10 footer cannot do this. Also, the giant skeletons found under mounds all over the world towards the late 18th century.

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  23. I think this person who make this article is just bias to their beliefs. Even though one giant or could be 7-8 feet in height doesn't there weren't tribes of bigger giants and higher in ranking. Goliath was around 9-10 ft tall.. and had brothers as big as himself. Og king of Bashan's bed size was even bigger than that. Pre flood giants were supposedly bigger than giants in David's time. I Suppose if they exist in our preasnt time, they might just be walking among us being our height. Maybe some are slightly bigger than us humans.

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    1. Thanks for commenting. Anything is possible, but the actual data from the Bible places Goliath as the tallest given specific measurements. Og's bed size suggests he was the same or slightly larger. It could very well be that this height would have bee common for Biblical giants. That, however, is orders of magnitude different from 40 or 400 feet. My goal was not to speculate on the heights, but to look at the specific data and see where that led. It leads to men that were 3 to 6 feet taller than the average person at the time. Another way to think about it is 75% to 100% taller than the average person. That seems to me to very reasonably qualify as giant by any standard.

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    2. Og's bed was 13 foot long, 6 foot wide. So he did have to be around 10-12 foot tall. The obvious is that if og was considered the tallest in Giants then why did God cause a flood that covered the mountain tops for that height unless the mountain tops had to be completely and overly covered because they lived in the mountains and had to make sure no one had a chance to escape God's punishment. That makes complete sense to me rather it's 12 feet or 450 feet. Which ever it was, the mountains had to be overly covered to make sure no one survived.

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    3. Kings could have beds that were twice as big as they were !

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  24. A person doesn't have to get too large before it is simply impossible for him to even roll over, much less stand up. He would die long before reaching 450 feet in height.

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    1. Your one of the few here that makes any sense ..Humans cannot exist with any thing near the heights that is being tossed about . Angels did not have sex with humans as there is no gender in the spirit world . As Christ himself said '' there is neither male nor female in the spirit world.

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  25. I really love reading these comments. It never ceases to amaze me the level of bat shittery you people believe in. It is truly frightening to think you people walk among us. The level of cognitive dissonance required to even entertain these ideas as true, is amazing. How do you people hold down jobs? No scratch that, how do you find someone willing to procreate with?

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    1. Did you come here just to be an arsehole? Seriously, why are you here? You don't believe in anything, clearly, except your own vanity. Piss off. No one likes you, that's why you have to waste your time trolling sites like this.

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    2. What are you getting at?

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    3. As a christian I have to admit that there seems to be a lot of people believe in things that make no sense at all. For a man to be as big as some of these people say would have to have legs as big as a large smoke stack. Beyond a certain size any creature in earths gravity would become completely inefficient .

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  26. Also, the references to angels being tall enough to stand on the four corners of the earth does NOT mean the earth is flat. Nor is it a reference to the earth being flat. Four corners could be four corners, or it could be north south east west. Doesn't matter what four corners means. It is said in the bible. But God also asked job where were u when I laid down the foundation of the world? God knows what he meant when he said that. Also the references about Enoch not being in the bible, that doesn't mean that enoch was supposed to be on the bible. This KJV bible we use today was written exactly how it was meant to be written or it wouldn't be the most famous bible in the world.

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  27. The sons of God were not angels, they were men that fell into sin by taking sinful women as there wife's, genesis chapter six is about man's sin and not repenting God gave them 120 years
    to repent but they did not, 10 times in chapter six it says men,not once does it say angels there were giant's on the earth in those days ,and also after the sons of God married the sinful women, the text is saying just the same men. From Adam to the tower of Babel just one race and one language not two races and two languages doesn't that show you that this idea of angels married women is totally wrong.

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  28. Your absolutely right . Angles are neither male or female for as Christ said himself there is neither male nor female in the spirit world . They cannot have sexual relations with humans.

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  29. Opinions are like leaves falling to the ground in on a very windy day.becoming NOTHING LOL

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  30. I also belief the giants were 1.5km tall evidents in afica a heart was found the size 6' plus so smoke that christian believer of shit god

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  31. You do not believe, you only imagine.

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  32. The fallen Angels took women and had sex with them & had children aka Nephilim...

    Who are we to speculate scripture... if he said the were as tall as the cedars & strong as an oak... cedars grow today 140 feet tall... hmm

    When the Government, Hollywood and Cartoons want me to believe in dinosaurs and No One is telling me about men 140+ feet tall ... I'll choose to believe God's word 🙏
    2 Chronicles 7:14

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  33. The first of I want to say I appreciate you writing this article. A lot of time went into it and you did a very good job. I think you did a great job of looking at multiple perspectives and multiple different texts to try to get to the bottom of. What do we know. At the same time, leaving some of the unknown as a possibility, however cannot go based upon the fact that we do not know it. My thoughts are that it seems as The book of Enoch is not associated to Christian or Jewish text today is because I believe Satan has done an amazing ability to remove all history of the fallen angels from the world. The book of Enoch being one of the biggest sources for the angels. As much as I believe that the men going through the canonization process were sound. I don't think that they were perfect. I don't think that you need the book of Enoch to be saved, so it's not vitally important. But to understand, one's enemy puts one at a significantly better spot to defend. Now if we look at the churches throughout the ages we see that there multiple times for the churches left God.

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  34. Why would God use a cedar tree which averages between 40 to 70 foot in height to a person 7ft tall? If the average height was 5'7 then certainly 7ft isn't as intimidating as one the height of a cedar tree.

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  35. If fallen angle had sex with human that becames 4500 feet giant how did that fit on human belly? I also see some nasty comments Im very sure they were democrats.

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  36. The democrats will say anything to gain power and money, any lies that can be repeated again and again. They lie about everything. They want people to believe the racism card when they are the idiots who created the kukluxclan. Republican did not. Check it out for yourself on the internet. They and the Catholic Church have hidden truth from all of us. If you are that naive then you have been tricked again. I dare you to search for the truth.

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  37. The bible speaks of sons of God, which are men. There is NO mention of fallen angels mixed in with humans. There is no mention of God giving the fallen angels the power to create human bodies for themselves.

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  38. I do not dispute the existence of the Giants, only that they came into existence in another manner. We can comment without being rude and nasty to others, right?

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  39. There's another explanation of the "3000 ells" put forth by RI Burns: "3000 Els" is a scribal corruption of "And there were born to them three sorts, the first were great giants, and to the giants were born Nephilim, and to the Nephilim were born Elioud." The scribal error was in turning 3 into 3000, and Elioud, probably because it was not understood, into Els, in a demonstration of poor scholarship. It is a known fact that proper names such as "Elioud" and numbers, such as "three" suffer the most from scribal copying and translating over millennia. John Baty got it right in his 1839 translation of Enoch; Nickelsburg / Vanderkam also got it right in their 2004 translation.

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  40. All the truth is described in the book of Enoch and I will tell you that, don't ever think that the book of Enoch isn't real. It is real!! They are (the elites or by their known name the "illuminati" Devil worshipers) the one's who removed it from the bible. But the astonishing truth is that they couldn't remove it from the Ethiopian bible. And still now it is only Ethiopia which has this first oldest part of holy scriptures! This book doesn't only has the story of the Giants but also the the whole storyline from the first creation day till now. It has the past, the present and the future. I'm not gonna tell you the whole story because it is a LOT!!! When we talk about the Nephilim's height the book clearly says, they had a height of 3000 (Three thousand)cubits!!!which is above a cloud and even more than this!!! This is the truth it is the word of God that manifested through Enoch.

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  41. [The dimen]sions of the six cellae which constitute the ziggurat-temple. The eastern rooms - the cella of the g[od]:

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    ⸢2 ÚS⸣ 0.40 SAG qan-ni a-na qan-ni pa-pa-ḫa-a-⸢ni⸣

    2 (nindanu ) [the len]gth, 40/60 the breadth; the bordering/edging(?) cel[la]e

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    šá dAG u dtaš-me-tum 0.45.ÀM ÚS 0.40.ÀM SAG

    of Nabû and Tašmētum: (each) 45/60 the length, 45/60 breadth.

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    2-ta É.MEŠ šá IM.SI.SÁ šá dé-a u dnusku É dé-a 1.25 ÚS

    The two northern rooms – (the chapels) of Ea and Nuska: the chapel of Ea: 1 + 25/60 the length,

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    0.30 SAG É dnusku 0.35 ÚS 0.35 SAG É šá IM.U₁₈.LU É da-nim u dEN.LÍL

    30/60 the breadth; the chapel of Nuska: 35/60 the length, 35/60 the breadth. The southern room - the chapel of Anu and Enlil:

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    1.10 ÚS 0.30 SAG É šá IM.MAR.TU tu-ʾu-um ù É sim-mil-ti

    1 + 10/60 the length, 30/60 the breadth. The western rooms – the double room and the staircase

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    ina ku-tal-li-šú pa-ni KÁ-a-nu-ú É GIŠ.NÁ 2.5 ÚS 0.30 SAG

    behind it: the outer front – the bedroom: 2 + 5/60 the length, 30/60 the breadth;

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    pa-ni É-a-nu-ú 1.40 ÚS 0.20 SAG É sim-mil-ti ki-i pi-i-šú-nu-ma ÚS

    the inner front: 1 + 40/60 the length, 20/60 the breadth; the staircase: length and breadth in accordance with their proportions.

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    u SAG KISAL 1.40 ÚS 1.5 SAG KISAL ṣu-⸢ul-lul⸣

    The courtyard: 1 + 40/60 the length, 20/60 the breadth. The courtyard is roo[fe]d.

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    GIŠ.NÁ 9 KÙŠ ÚS 4 KÙŠ SAG GIŠ.NÁ u GIŠ.GU.ZA tar-ṣu ù GIŠ.SAG.KUL.ME la-mu GIŠ.NÁ 2-ta

    The bed: 9 cubits the length, 4 cubits the breadth. The bed and the throne are opposite and ringed with circles(?). A second bed

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    [ina] KISAL na-da-a-ti KÁ dUTU.È KÁ IM.U₁₈.LU KÁ dUTU.ŠÚ.A KÁ IM.SI.SÁ

    is located [in] the courtyard. Gate of the Sunrise, South Gate, Gate of the Sunset, North Gate.

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    ⸢mim⸣-da-a-ti ÚS SAG u SUKUD eš₄-ši-tinu-ḫar TIN.TIR.KI MU.NE

    [The d]imensions – length, breadth and height – of the temple whose name is the Ziggurat-temple of Babylon:

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